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discrepancies in SYS/SYSTEM object counts after migration [message #453982] Mon, 03 May 2010 05:34 Go to next message
reym21
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Sir/ Ma'am,

Pls advise me on this... I'm a newbie dBA.

We had a new outsourcer who completed migration of 1 of our system running under Oracle10g-Solaris 10. We created an inventory script that will list all objects counts of SYS, SYSTEM and ORACLE and all other schemas. This script will be ran before (old server) and after migration (to new server). After migration to the new & bigger server, we noticed from the output of the inventory script for SYS/SYSTEM object counts had been reduced compared from the original/actual value (from the old server). Our outsourcer said that this is not an issue since
SYS/SYSTEM objects are not transactional and cannot be controlled.

Is this true? Are there any impact on this? As we will conform that the migration was completed successfully by our new outsourcer.

Thanks in advance.
Re: discrepancies in SYS/SYSTEM object counts after migration [message #453984 is a reply to message #453982] Mon, 03 May 2010 05:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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outsourcer said that this is not an issue since SYS/SYSTEM objects are not transactional.

This is totally meaningless. What could this mean?

The count of objects in SYS and SYSTEM accounts depends on your version (up to the 5 decimals), options and scripts you installed.
If all are the same ones, the number of objects are the same ones. This is deterministic.

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Michel
Re: discrepancies in SYS/SYSTEM object counts after migration [message #453990 is a reply to message #453982] Mon, 03 May 2010 05:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The old server and the new server has the same Oracle version (10g) and Solaris (10) version.
Re: discrepancies in SYS/SYSTEM object counts after migration [message #453991 is a reply to message #453990] Mon, 03 May 2010 06:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I said version up to 5 decimals; 10 is only one.
And the other points are not to be neglected.

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Michel
Re: discrepancies in SYS/SYSTEM object counts after migration [message #453993 is a reply to message #453991] Mon, 03 May 2010 06:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Most of values (count) are in a 5-digit whole numbers
Ex.

SYS object count (old server) for:
- WRH$_SQLSTAT 18481

SYS object count (new server) for:
- WRH$_SQLSTAT 18359


excerpts from the inventory script...

prompt ===============================================
prompt COUNT OF ALL OBJECTS (OTHER,ORACLE,SYS,SYSTEM)
prompt ================================================
break on owner on report
compute sum of cnt on owner
compute sum of cnt on report
select owner, object_type, count(*) cnt, status
from dba_objects
where owner in ('OTHER', 'ORACLE', 'SYS', 'SYSTEM')
group by owner, object_type, status;
Re: discrepancies in SYS/SYSTEM object counts after migration [message #453994 is a reply to message #453993] Mon, 03 May 2010 06:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I meant Oracle version number: "10.2.0.4.3" is 5 decimal version number.

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Michel

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Re: discrepancies in SYS/SYSTEM object counts after migration [message #454162 is a reply to message #453982] Tue, 04 May 2010 05:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Some People never understand the things quickly. You have to tell them the full steps Smile

Actually Michel is asking the database version. Just paste the output of the below query:
select banner from v$version;

[Updated on: Tue, 04 May 2010 05:38]

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Re: discrepancies in SYS/SYSTEM object counts after migration [message #454168 is a reply to message #454162] Tue, 04 May 2010 05:49 Go to previous message
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The count of objects in SYS and SYSTEM accounts depends on your version (up to the 5 decimals), options and scripts you installed.If all are the same ones, the number of objects are the same ones. This is deterministic.


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the other points are not to be neglected


sriram Smile
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